Best Trader in the World Reveals His Exact Strategy LIVE on Charts — Patrick Nill
A world trading champion reveals his counter-trend PBD strategy live on the DAX chart, plus his risk rules, psychology, and the costly oil trade that changed everything
Patrick Niel is a multiple-time world trading champion. He reports that he has ranked among the world's best traders for five consecutive years. In an interview with Brent, he described his approach to market structure, risk, and psychology, and he walked through his method on live charts.
Core Approach
Niel describes himself as a discretionary, counter-trend trader. He says he prefers to take positions opposite to the majority of market participants. He states that he trades discretionarily but still works within defined rules.
His strategy is based on the PBD model, a framework taught by Thomas, who developed it. Niel and Thomas run an academy together. Thomas teaches the rules behind the model in his online coaching programs.
Niel says the model is not complex. He notes, however, that applying it well takes practice. He states that others can learn it, although not necessarily to the same level of precision.
The PBD Model
The model identifies two price patterns:
- P (impulse up): A strong upward move followed by a range.
- B (impulse down): A strong downward move followed by a range.
Niel's process is as follows:
- Identify the larger context. Before each session, he looks for where large market participants are active and which structures are present.
- Locate impulse and range patterns. He focuses on impulses that occur in good zones.
- Wait for the breakout. After an impulse and range, he waits to see whether price moves further in the impulse direction. He trades after the impulse rather than during it.
- Trade the range when conditions allow. If the range is well defined, he trades its boundaries until price breaks out.
Niel says that the PBD structure appears in most markets. He cites the DAX as an example.
Market Profile and Order Flow
Niel uses weekly volume-based market profile to identify value area highs and lows. He says these levels are important for locating trade opportunities.
He describes the market profile as a tool that shows:
- Where market participants have accepted prices.
- Where the market is likely to move quickly and where it is likely to move slowly.
He states that market profile is not exact and is not a complete system.
Execution timeframe: Niel uses the 15-minute chart for trade entries.
Footprint and order flow: He reviews footprint and order flow when a trade setup appears and he is in front of the screens. He says this review improves entry precision. He acknowledges that he does not do it every time because he is often away from the screens.
When the impulse and range align with the same market profile level, Niel says the setup is stronger.
Trade Duration
Niel typically holds trades for:
- Part of a day, or
- Four hours to three days.
He contrasts this with scalping. A member of his team scalps and takes many trades per day. Niel describes that style as unsuited to him. He describes himself as a slow trader and says each trader must find the approach that suits them.
He acknowledges that high-frequency scalping can produce consistent results. He cites a friend who takes about 100 trades per day and reports that his last losing day occurred three years ago. Niel notes that a trader taking five trades per day can lose on all five in a single day, which he describes as normal.
Stop Loss and Profit Targets
Stop loss: Niel states that a stop loss must be defined before entry, because it determines position size. He places stops based on one of the following:
- Beyond the zone.
- In the middle of the zone.
- Behind a structural point.
- Based on volume in the last candles.
Profit target: For impulse-based setups, Niel typically places the profit target below the impulse. He states that price often returns to the start of the impulse.
Trade management: In swing trades, Niel reports his best results when he does not actively manage open positions. When he is in front of the screens, he manages trades and may exit early if conditions weaken.
Risk Management
Niel's core risk rule is:
"I never risk more than 1% in my own portfolio."
He states that this limit keeps drawdowns manageable. He acknowledges that he has broken the rule two or three times in his career. On each occasion, he reports that he lost money.
Competition and Personal Accounts
Niel describes different risk parameters for competitions and personal accounts.
| Factor | World Championship | Personal Portfolio |
|---|---|---|
| Risk per trade | Up to 2–3% at times | Approximately 0.2%, according to Niel |
| Objective | Large return to gain visibility | Capital preservation |
| Drawdown tolerance | Higher | Low |
He reports the following about his trading statistics:
- Win rate: 50–60%.
- Losing streaks: Up to 10–20 consecutive losses are possible.
He states that a personal account cannot sustain this variability at high risk per trade.
Worst Trade: Oil During COVID
Niel describes his worst trade as a long position in oil during the COVID period.
- Oil fell from roughly 40 and 30 to 20, then to 15 and 13.
- He added to the position as the price declined, expecting a reversal.
- Oil fell to 8, then to 5. He closed the position at a substantial loss.
- Oil later traded at minus 42.
Niel says he had not considered that oil prices could turn negative. He had assumed the maximum risk was a decline to zero. He states that this event made the importance of strict risk rules clear to him.
Drawdown Limits
Niel uses drawdown as the main measure of strategy consistency. He sets the following thresholds:
- He is concerned by drawdowns greater than 10%.
- A strategy with a drawdown above 20% is not suitable for him.
- He describes 20% as the maximum drawdown he considers tolerable.
He explains the recovery required after a drawdown:
| Drawdown | Gain required to break even |
|---|---|
| 20% | 25% |
| 50% | 100% |
Niel reports a 20% drawdown in a world championship and a earlier drawdown in his private account. He says that he recovered by continuing to trade the same method. He states that changing a strategy during a drawdown is only appropriate when the trader fully understands the strategy.
Psychology and Discipline
Niel describes himself as calm by temperament. He says his students often struggle with emotional control.
When he feels pressure or frustration, he does the following:
- He stops trading for the day.
- He spends time with his children.
He states that this routine helps him return to the next session with a clear approach.
He identifies the following as the main sources of poor performance:
- Trading while nervous or in a poor emotional state.
- Taking consecutive losing trades, which leads to further losses.
Backtesting and Testing
Niel supports backtesting and considers it essential for evaluating new strategies. His testing process includes the following:
- Historical testing: He checks whether a strategy has produced consistent results over approximately five years, because many strategies perform well for a few months before failing.
- Live testing with small capital: He tests new strategies with a small amount of real money. He states that testing with real money produces a more accurate assessment than simulated testing.
He prioritizes consistency over peak performance when reviewing backtest results.
Fundamental Analysis and News
Niel primarily uses technical analysis. He states that technical analysis can perform well without fundamental analysis.
He reduces exposure around major news events. He says a team member analyzes news and explains its implications to the team, while he prefers to remain out of the market during major announcements.
As an example, Niel describes a value area high from two weeks earlier, where price stopped during a period of news involving Iran and Trump. He cites this as evidence that technical levels can hold regardless of news flow.
Advice for Developing Traders
Niel's recommendations include:
- Use a single, defined strategy. He states that studying too many strategies leaves traders without a clear approach. He cites traders who become lost among 20 or 30 strategies.
- Keep a trading journal. Review trades, identify those that followed the rules, and repeat those.
- Test before committing capital. Use historical data and small live positions.
- Accept that no single method guarantees results. He states: "There is no holy grail in the trading business."
- Expect gradual progress. Niel draws on an interview with actor Tom Cruise, in which Cruise described learning skills step by step. Niel applies the same principle to trading and states that experienced traders developed their skills through sequential practice.
Introduction
Patrick Niel is introduced as a multi-time world trading champion who ranked among the world's best five years in a row, and as a counter-trend trader who risks at most 1% per trade.
- Described as a multiple-time world trading champion who ranked among the world's best five years in a row
- Says he is a real counter trader who likes doing the opposite of normal people
- Never risks more than 1% of his own portfolio per trade
- Strategy is described as far simpler than expected
Hard Work, Direction and Discretion
Patrick attributes his success to consistent, disciplined work and to finding direction early, avoiding learning many unrelated methods at once.
- Works with many trades the whole year and repeats the same process consistently
- Says a trader needs an edge, calmness, and hard work
- In his first year he learned 10 different things without a clear direction and had poor results
- He is a discretionary trader who must feel the market, while still using rules and a systematic approach
- Office has five or six traders who each trade differently
The PBD Model
The PBD model: a big impulse up followed by a range (B = impulse down followed by a range). He looks for these structures at good zones, trades after the impulse, and trades the range if it is good.
- PBD models come from trader Thomas and are taught in his online coaching and academy
- P stands for impulse up followed by a range; B stands for impulse down followed by a range
- He looks at where big money is and where big traders are, then searches for structures
- He trades after the impulse, waiting to see if price continues up or down, or trades the range (ping pong) until it breaks out
- He looks at the move and the days before the impulse
Live Chart Walkthrough
Live chart walkthrough on the DAX: identify impulse and range, look for entries at good zones, and use weekly market profile value area highs and lows as reference points.
- Example uses the DAX over the last several days with a big impulse followed by a range
- Looks for short trades at the top and long trades at the bottom of the range, after breakouts or pullbacks
- Uses weekly market profile (volume based) value area highs and lows as important trade reference levels
- Says the market profile shows where big players are, where price moves fast or slow, and where value areas are
- Uses the 15-minute chart for trades and looks at footprint and order flow when at the screen, though not every time
- When impulse and range align with a value area high, the setup is stronger
Holding Period and Scalping
Trades are held from about 4 hours to 3 days; he avoids depending on scalping and says lots of small trades can work for some but is complicated.
- Typical holding period is 4 hours to 3 days, sometimes one day in the middle
- Notes a friend who scalps about 100 trades per day, with his last losing day three years ago
- Says five or three trades a day can all be losses, which is normal
- Says the PBD method is not rocket science but requires skill to apply well
Psychology
Psychology is central: he stays calm, avoids trading when unwell, and closes the markets and spends time with his children after bad days.
- Believes trading psychology is very important and sees students struggle with it
- If he feels too much pressure, he closes the markets and goes out with his children
- Says his worst days come when he is nervous or in a bad mood, with consecutive losses
Stops, Targets and Trade Management
Stop loss is placed according to the structure (zone, middle, top, or volume in last candles) and is always set before entry so position size can be calculated.
- Profit target is usually under the impulse, often returning to the beginning of the impulse
- Stops can be placed over the zone, over the top, in the middle, or behind the last volume candles
- A stop loss must be defined at the start to determine position size and risk
- On his swing trades he does better when he does not manage the trade, but manages it in front of screens if available
News and Fundamentals
He does not follow news or fundamentals closely; he avoids the market during major news and relies on a team member for interpretation, but believes technicals alone can work.
- Avoids being in the market when big news or big decisions are coming
- Team member interprets news for the group
- Believes technical analysis can work without fundamentals, citing a value area high respected despite Iran and Trump news
Competition vs Personal Trading
Competition trading involves higher risk (2-3% per trade) to climb quickly, while his own portfolio uses about 0.2% to 1% risk with a 50-60% win rate, accepting 10-20 consecutive losses.
- In competitions he risked two to three percent per trade and aimed for large returns
- In his own portfolio his risk is around 0.2% to 1% per trade
- Win rate of about 50-60%, with sometimes 10-20 losses in a row
- He cannot accept big drawdowns on his own money
Risk Management and the Oil Lesson
His worst trade was an oil trade during COVID when he kept buying as prices fell and the price went negative, prompting strict risk rules.
- Trades oil and bought repeatedly as prices fell from around 40 to 20, 15, 13, 8, and 5
- Oil went to minus 42, which he did not expect, and he closed the position at a large loss
- Concluded that risk rules are essential, even though maximum risk was assumed to be zero
- Sticks to 1% risk, although he admits breaking the rule two or three times with losses
Journaling, Back Testing and Drawdowns
He uses a trading journal to review winners and losers, back tests strategies for consistency over about 5 years, and tests with small real money.
- Recommends keeping a trading journal and focusing on what works
- Back tests strategies over about five years to check consistency
- Maximum drawdown limit is 10% for good strategies and 20% is the hard limit
- Drawdown of 20% needs a 25% gain to recover; 50% needs 100%
- Tests new strategies with small real money to feel the emotional impact
Final Advice
Key advice: there is no holy grail, find your own way, distrust hype, stay calm, and progress comes slowly through reviews and rule-following, as illustrated by Tom Cruise's analogy.
- There is no holy grail; each trader must find their own way
- Be skeptical of people who claim to know everything
- Progress comes with time and regular reviews of whether rules are followed
- Tom Cruise analogy: learn step by step, one skill after another, and do not expect quick mastery
