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Oct 12, 2026
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Altseason Is Over For Most Coins (Crypto VC Names The Survivors)
Is Altseason over? Crypto VCs reveal the AI survivors. Explore AI's trillion-dollar wave, market shifts, and durable investments.
The cryptocurrency market is experiencing a significant shift, with many altcoins struggling to maintain momentum, while the burgeoning field of Artificial Intelligence (AI) is attracting substantial capital investment. This transition marks a departure from previous market dynamics, where crypto was the primary focus for venture capital.
The AI Investment Wave
A notable trend is the redirection of investment towards AI, particularly in areas like memory and power infrastructure. This shift is driven by the immense capital expenditure expected in the AI sector. Projections indicate that trillions of dollars in AI capital expenditure will be deployed over the next few years. This presents a "big wave" of opportunity compared to the current state of the crypto market, which some investors now consider "sufficiently not interesting."
Crypto Market Dynamics: A Bifurcated Landscape
While the broader crypto market may be less compelling, a bifurcation is emerging. Some cryptocurrencies are demonstrating strong fundamentals, attracting users, generating revenue, and reinvesting in their ecosystems. These projects are performing well independently of broader market cycles. In contrast, a significant portion of the crypto market continues to operate as it has historically, with less demonstrable value creation.
This divergence suggests that traditional four-year crypto cycles may be becoming less relevant. Instead, market performance is increasingly influenced by broader momentum-driven trends and macroeconomic factors, such as interest rates. The crypto market has shown resilience, rebounding faster than anticipated in a high-rate environment, a phenomenon that is still being analyzed.
Identifying Durable Crypto Investments
Despite the overall market shifts, certain crypto protocols are exhibiting durability. Projects that consistently generate fees and revenue, regardless of Bitcoin's price fluctuations, are considered strong investments. Examples include perpetual exchanges and meme coin platforms, which, despite their differing market perceptions, demonstrate a persistent ability to attract user activity and generate income.
The valuation of these protocols is also a point of discussion. Some have traded at very low price-to-earnings ratios, even below their cash reserves, suggesting a market disconnect. While some protocols like Hyperliquid are seen as potentially scaling to broader financial markets, meme coins are perceived as having a smaller, though sticky, market. The debate centers on the sustainability of fee generation and the market's willingness to underwrite future earnings.
The AI Investment Thesis: Durability and Demand
The AI sector is characterized by significant capital deployment, with an estimated trillion dollars expected annually. However, concerns exist regarding the sustainability of this expenditure, potential regulatory hurdles, and deployment delays.
Nvidia, a key player in the AI hardware space, has transitioned from a cyclical semiconductor stock to a highly valued company. This shift is attributed to a more durable business model, driven by sustained demand for AI products and services. The core question for investors is whether this buildout is sustainable and if demand for AI products will persist.
Challenges and Opportunities in AI
The profitability of leading AI companies like OpenAI and Anthropic is under scrutiny, as they currently do not generate profits and rely on continuous funding. While these companies represent a significant portion of AI capex, other major players like Meta and Google are also heavily investing in AI training and inference, driven by a high return on investment.
The capital-intensive nature of AI infrastructure, including data centers and specialized hardware, presents challenges. Building new data centers is a multi-year process, and procuring necessary components like memory and chips is difficult. This is expected to lead to a constrained environment for compute resources over the next four to five years.
Investment Focus: Power and Memory
Within the AI ecosystem, investment in lower-level infrastructure components like power and memory is considered a more robust strategy. This approach avoids the need to precisely predict which specific AI models or applications will dominate. The rationale is that regardless of the specific AI advancements, there will be a persistent and durable demand for the underlying power and memory required to run these systems.
The Future of AI and Crypto
The intersection of AI and crypto lies in their potential to disrupt traditional industries characterized by friction and opacity. AI, through agents, can enhance financial literacy and automate tasks, challenging businesses that have historically relied on less informed consumers. Crypto, with its focus on decentralized, transparent, and lower-cost systems, may attract users and liquidity in a world where agents are increasingly performing human tasks.
While some crypto businesses are highly profitable, such as stablecoin issuers and exchanges, the broader application of crypto to traditional "main street" businesses has not yet yielded sufficiently compelling returns to outperform benchmarks like the S&P 500. The significant capital expenditure in AI, estimated at a trillion dollars annually, represents a substantial wave of opportunity that many investors are now prioritizing over the current crypto landscape.
The AI Wave and Shifting Market Dynamics
The conversation begins by highlighting the immense opportunity in AI, with trillions in capital expenditure expected. A crypto fund manager notes the shift in interest from crypto to AI, specifically in memory and power sectors. The discussion touches on the irrelevance of traditional crypto cycles due to market volatility and the increasing correlation with traditional markets, driven by AI's influence.
- AI is attracting significant capital expenditure, estimated at trillions of dollars annually.
- Some crypto investors are shifting focus to AI, particularly in memory and power infrastructure.
- Traditional crypto market cycles are becoming less relevant due to increased volatility and correlation with broader markets.
- AI's impact is being felt across various sectors, including traditional finance and technology.
Crypto Market Bifurcation and Business Durability
The discussion delves into the bifurcation within the crypto market, where a few projects are thriving with user growth and revenue, while most are stagnant. The relevance of market cycles is questioned, with a focus on whether strong businesses can succeed independently or if correlation with the stock market will dominate. The concept of 'K-shaped economy' within crypto is introduced.
- The crypto market is showing a 'K-shaped' recovery, with a few successful projects and many others struggling.
- The relevance of traditional crypto cycles is debated, with some arguing for independent business success.
- Durable crypto businesses are identified by their ability to generate consistent revenue and fees.
- Examples of successful crypto protocols include hyperliquid and certain meme coin businesses.
Valuation, AI Capex, and Market Challenges
The conversation shifts to the valuation of AI companies and crypto protocols, comparing P/E ratios and market perceptions. Hyperliquid's valuation is contrasted with meme coins, questioning the market's willingness to pay for future earnings. The sustainability of AI capex and the role of companies like OpenAI and Anthropic are discussed, alongside the challenges of data center buildouts and component procurement.
- Valuation differences between AI companies and crypto protocols are analyzed, with a focus on P/E ratios.
- The market's perception of future earnings sustainability impacts valuations.
- AI capex sustainability and the profitability of key AI players like OpenAI and Anthropic are key concerns.
- Challenges in data center construction and component sourcing are creating a compute-constrained environment.
AI Sustainability and Semiconductor Market Evolution
The discussion explores the sustainability of AI capex, the market's understanding of AI applications, and the cyclical nature of the semiconductor industry. Nvidia's transition from a cyclical stock to a highly valued company is highlighted. The debate centers on whether the current AI buildout is durable and if there will be sustained demand for AI products.
- The market is struggling to assess the sustainability of AI capital expenditure.
- AI applications are still nascent, with less than 5% of the global population currently using AI.
- Nvidia's business model has evolved, demonstrating durability beyond traditional semiconductor cycles.
- The core question for AI is the long-term durability of the buildout and sustained product demand.
AI Company Viability and Infrastructure Investment
The conversation addresses the financial viability of AI companies like OpenAI and Anthropic, their reliance on continuous funding, and the potential collapse of the AI ecosystem if they fail. The role of major tech companies like Meta and Google in driving AI compute spend is examined, along with the capital-intensive nature of building AI infrastructure.
- OpenAI and Anthropic are critical to the AI ecosystem, but their profitability and funding are concerns.
- Meta and Google are significant drivers of AI compute spending for training and inference.
- Building AI infrastructure, such as gigawatt data centers, is extremely capital-intensive.
- The ROI on AI investments is a key factor influencing continued funding and buildout.
Cost of Capital, AI Models, and Compute Demand
The discussion highlights the increasing cost of capital and its impact on AI infrastructure development. Companies are willing to borrow at higher rates, indicating confidence in future returns. The conversation also touches on the competitive landscape between open-source and closed-source AI models and the underlying need for compute power regardless of model type.
- Rising interest rates are increasing the cost of capital for AI infrastructure.
- Companies borrowing at high rates suggest strong expected returns on AI investments.
- The competition between open-source and closed-source AI models continues.
- Compute power is essential for running all AI models, regardless of their source.
Investing in AI Infrastructure: Power and Memory
The conversation explores the long-term demand for intelligence and the investment opportunities in the lower layers of the AI stack, such as power and memory. The durability of businesses that provide essential components for AI infrastructure is emphasized, irrespective of which specific AI models or applications become dominant.
- There is a persistent and durable demand for intelligence across various sectors.
- Investments in power and memory are considered safe bets within the AI infrastructure.
- The demand for AI compute is expected to remain high, creating a constrained environment.
- Companies focusing on essential AI components are well-positioned regardless of specific AI model success.
AI Disruption and the Competitive Model Landscape
The discussion examines the potential for AI agents to disrupt traditional industries like banking and insurance by increasing transparency and reducing reliance on human intelligence. The competitive landscape of AI models is analyzed, with a focus on the rapid pace of innovation and the challenge of monetizing AI leads.
- AI agents can disrupt industries by increasing transparency and reducing information asymmetry.
- Traditional businesses relying on less intelligence may be vulnerable to AI disruption.
- The AI model landscape is highly competitive, with rapid advancements and short lead times.
- Monetizing AI leads and establishing durable business models are critical for success.
AI as the Dominant Investment Wave and Industry Disruption
The conversation revisits the shift from crypto to AI as a more significant investment opportunity, citing the massive AI capex as a 'bigger wave.' The discussion also touches on the 'inversion' principle, focusing on avoiding businesses that rely on a lack of intelligence, such as traditional financial institutions.
- AI represents a larger investment opportunity ('bigger wave') compared to the current crypto market.
- The 'inversion' principle suggests avoiding businesses that profit from information asymmetry or lack of intelligence.
- Traditional financial institutions may be vulnerable to AI-driven disruption.
- The intersection of AI and crypto lies in creating decentralized, transparent systems that attract liquidity.
Crypto Maturation and Investment Opportunity Cost
The discussion concludes by acknowledging the maturation of the crypto industry, where fundamentals are increasingly driving success. The focus shifts to identifying durable, profitable crypto businesses and the importance of opportunity cost in investment decisions, especially in a rising rate environment.
- The crypto industry is maturing, with fundamentals playing a larger role in success.
- Identifying durable and profitable crypto businesses is key.
- Opportunity cost is a critical factor in investment decisions, particularly with rising interest rates.
- The shift from crypto to AI is driven by the scale of AI's potential impact and investment.