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How To Lose The RIGHT Way In Trading (84% Rule)

Dec 26, 2023

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How To Lose The RIGHT Way In Trading (84% Rule)

Stopped out just before your target? Learn the 84% rule: a re-entry method using identical criteria, with NQ and SPY examples showing real wins after losses.

Published December 26, 2023

A trade that meets all setup criteria can still reach its stop-loss before moving toward the profit target. The 84% rule is a method for handling that situation. It defines when a trader may re-enter the same trade and what criteria the second entry must meet.

What the 84% Rule States

The rule holds that if a trade within a trader's system fails the first time it is taken, a return to the same level should work about 84% of the time. The presenter describes this as a hypothetical probability, not a measured statistic.

The rule applies only when the second entry uses the same criteria as the first. These criteria include:

  • The same entry trigger
  • The same stop-loss placement
  • The same profit target

The example used throughout is a break-and-retest strategy. In this setup:

  • Price breaks a level of support or resistance.
  • Price retests that level.
  • A strong confirmation candle, such as a hammer, forms at the retest.

Why the Rule Can Work

The presenter identifies three reasons a stopped-out trade can later move in the intended direction.

  1. Poor execution on the first entry. The first entry was either too early or the stop-loss was too tight. In the first example, the stop-loss was too tight, so the trade exited before the move developed. On the second entry, the stop-loss sits at the same level, but the market has already swept the liquidity below it.
  2. A correct thesis. The trader may have identified the correct direction based on the system. Execution alone can cause the stop-out. A trader with a valid thesis can re-enter after a stop-out.
  3. Fake-out liquidity. Price can move against a trader briefly, then move in the intended direction. The presenter notes that this occurs often for retail traders.

The presenter also states that retail traders often place stop-losses where they do not reflect proper market structure breaks. The market can then use these stops as liquidity before moving to the next level.

How to Apply the Rule

The method has three steps.

  1. Enter on a valid thesis. Trade only one setup until the trader is consistently profitable. Enter only when the setup meets all criteria.
  2. Do not re-enter immediately after a stop-out. Control emotions first. Confirm the trade was a valid A+ setup. Review why the trade failed.
  3. Re-enter with identical criteria. Wait for price to return to the original level and retest it. Enter only when the same conditions appear.

For the break-and-retest setup, the criteria are:

  • A break of the level
  • A retest with a strong hammer candle
  • A profit target at the high of day or a key level
  • A stop-loss below the break of market structure

Example 1: NQ

On NQ, a clear uptrend formed with a new high. The trader looked for a break of the prior high followed by a retest with a strong hammer candle.

First entry

  • The trader entered on the retest, targeting a level near 16,550.
  • The stop-loss sat slightly below the previous pivot low.
  • The risk-to-reward ratio was 2.06.
  • The trade reached the stop-loss. The loss was $1,900.

Re-evaluation

  • Price broke back below the level and did not hold it.
  • The trader waited for price to return to the 16,510 level and retest it with strong candles.

Second entry

  • Price broke the level, returned, held it, and retested it with strong candles above the level.
  • The trader entered with the same profit target and stop-loss.
  • Because of the candle's close, the risk-to-reward ratio was 2.45.
  • The trade reached the profit target. The gain was $4,100.

Result

  • Net result on the day: 2,200(2,200 (4,100 gain minus the $1,900 loss on the first trade).

Example 2: SPY

On SPY, price broke above a prior resistance level and retested it with a strong bullish candle. The profit target was the 464 psychological level.

First entry

  • The trader went long on the retest, targeting the 464 level.
  • The stop-loss sat slightly below the prior consolidation, before price broke to new highs of day.
  • The risk-to-reward ratio was 6.94.
  • Price made a new high, but a candle closed below the stop-loss. The loss was $210.

Re-evaluation

  • The trader did not re-enter at the first break above the prior level. The trader waited for a proper retest.

Second entry

  • Price broke back above the 464 level and retested the 46,275 level with a hammer candle.
  • The trader entered with the same profit target and stop-loss.
  • Because this candle closed slightly below the prior candle, the risk-to-reward ratio was 8.0.
  • The trade reached the 464 profit target. The gain was $1,220.

Result

  • Net result on the day: 1,010(1,010 (1,220 gain minus the $210 loss on the first trade).

Limitations of the Rule

The presenter states that the 84% rule does not guarantee a profitable result on every re-entry. The rule applies only when the criteria of the first and second trades match exactly. The examples were presented in hindsight.

Introduction: The Problem of Being Stopped Out

The presenter introduces the 84% rule as a way to avoid frustration from being stopped out of a good trade and then watching it move in your favor.

  • Viewers often take an A+ setup, get stopped out before profit target, and then watch the trade work without them.
  • The video aims to teach a simple concept to lose fewer trades and stay in trades long enough to reach profit targets.
  • The presenter says many newer students get very frustrated after being stopped out early.

What Is the 84% Rule

The 84% rule states that if a trade does not work the first time, retaking it with identical criteria when price returns to the level should work about 84% of the time.

  • Rule: if a trade in your system fails the first time, and price returns to the same level, the trade should hypothetically work 84% of the time.
  • Example setup: break and retest strategy with a white horizontal support line, a red stop-loss line, and a green profit target line.
  • The first trade used a strong Hammer candle confirmation after a breakout and retest of previous support, but was stopped out.
  • The criteria must be identical: same entry, same stop loss, and same profit target.
  • Three reasons the rule works: (1) the first entry or stop loss was poorly executed, (2) the thesis was correct but execution was off, (3) fake-out liquidity for retail traders.
  • The presenter references a separate video on fake-out liquidity for retail traders.

How to Use the 84% Rule: Three Steps

A three-step process: enter only on a proper setup, re-evaluate after a stop-out without re-entering right away, then re-enter with exactly the same criteria.

  • Step 1: Have a proper thesis based on one setup. Trade only that setup until consistently profitable.
  • Step 2: After being stopped out, do not enter right away. Control emotions, confirm it was an A+ setup, and re-evaluate why it failed.
  • Step 3: Re-enter with the exact same criteria as the first trade.
  • Break and retest criteria: a break of the level, a retest with a strong Hammer candle, profit target at high of day or a key level, and stop loss below the break of market structure.

Real Example 1: NQ Break and Retest

A NQ break and retest example where the first trade lost $1,900 and the 84% re-entry produced a $4,100 win, for a $2,200 net day.

  • Clear uptrend on NQ with a new high, then a break and retest of the previous high with a very strong Hammer candle.
  • Initial entry aimed at a profit target near 16,550 (transcribed as 16 5550), with a stop just below the previous pivot low, giving a 2.06 risk-to-reward trade.
  • The first trade failed and resulted in a $1,900 loss.
  • Price broke below and then came back to the 16,510 level, retested it, and held with strong candles above it, forming a valid break and retest.
  • Re-entry used the same profit target and stop loss, but the candle close gave a 2.45 risk-to-reward ratio.
  • The re-entered trade hit the profit target for a $4,100 gain on the first trade's setup.
  • Net result after offsetting the 1,900loss:1,900 loss: 2,200 for the day using the 84% rule.

Real Example 2: SPY Long Re-entry

A SPY long example where a 6.94 risk-to-reward first trade was stopped out for a $210 loss, and the 84% re-entry on a hammer retest hit target for $1,220, netting $1,010 for the day.

  • SPY setup: breakout above previous resistance, then a retest with a very strong bullish candle.
  • Initial long entry aimed at the 464 psychological level, with a stop just below the prior consolidation before the new highs, giving a 6.94 risk-to-reward trade.
  • Price made a new high, but the first trade was stopped out because a candle closed below the stop loss, for a $210 loss.
  • Trader did not re-enter right away. Price broke back above the 464 level and retested the 462.75 level with a hammer candle.
  • Re-entry used the same profit target and stop loss, with a candle close giving an 8.0 risk-to-reward ratio.
  • The re-entered trade hit the 464 profit target for a $1,220 gain.
  • Net result after offsetting the 210loss:210 loss: 1,010 for the day using the 84% rule.

Conclusion and Limitations

The 84% rule is not a guaranteed magic hack. It works only when the criteria of the first and second trades are identical, and it can help when the first stop was wrong.

  • The 84% rule does not work every time. The criteria from the first and second trades must be exactly the same.
  • The first stop-loss may have been wrong because the trader did not understand market structure, or the market used the stop as a liquidity grab.
  • Retail trader stop losses often sit where proper market structure breaks do not occur.
  • The examples were shown in hindsight.