~5m48:02Being an Ethical Protector w/Jack Hoban | #250 of the PeaceWalker Podcast
Apr 18, 2025
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Being an Ethical Protector w/Jack Hoban | #250 of the PeaceWalker Podcast
Discover the shift from predator to protector. Jack Hoban shares insights on ethical defense, self-concept, and building a protector lifestyle.
Jack Hoban, a former Marine officer and founder of Resolution Group International (RGI), shared his insights on the transition from a military "enforcer" mindset to that of an ethical protector. Hoban, speaking on the PeaceWalker Podcast, detailed his personal journey and the principles behind RGI's work in fostering a protector culture within law enforcement and other organizations.
From Bullying to the Corps: A Shifting Self-Concept
Hoban's path began in New Jersey, where childhood experiences of being bullied fueled a desire to become a protector. This led him to join the Marine Corps, where he served as an officer and experienced overseas deployments. However, the rigorous training and culture of the Marines, while instilling discipline, also subtly shifted his self-concept. "The way I was trained and the culture was not a protector really but more of as an enforcer or even killer," Hoban stated. This transformation, occurring over several years, resulted in him becoming an "angry person" and "paranoid," constantly seeking confrontation.
A pivotal moment arrived when his mentor, Robert Humphrey, a retired Marine, pointed out Hoban's confrontational demeanor. Humphrey challenged Hoban to adopt a new internal mantra: "Wherever I go, everyone's a little safer because I'm there. Anyone in need has a friend." This simple shift in perspective, practiced during a visit to a rough bar in San Diego, led to an "epiphany." Hoban realized he could shed the "angry, aggressive, killer, predator self-concept" without diminishing his capabilities, describing it as a weight being lifted. This marked the beginning of his transition from a "predator to protector."
The Subtle Slide into the "Thug Mentality"
Hoban observed that this shift from protector to enforcer is a common pitfall for individuals in martial arts, defensive tactics, and firearms training. While initial intentions may be honorable, the pursuit of greater skill and readiness can subtly morph into an aggressive, "thug" mentality. This occurs when the focus shifts from safeguarding others to enforcing one's own worldview or becoming "better and more dangerous" than perceived threats. Hoban noted that this transformation is often subtle and can become a powerful, unrecognized driver of negative behavior.
Cultivating the Protector Identity
Hoban offered two key pieces of advice for individuals, particularly those transitioning from military or law enforcement roles, to cultivate a clear protector identity:
- Positive Admonition: Instead of focusing on what not to do (e.g., "don't be a thug"), embrace positive affirmations like "be a protector." This positive framing is more effective than negating negative behaviors.
- Ethical Warrior Paradox: Hoban addressed the perceived contradiction of being an ethical protector when facing unethical adversaries. He recounted his experience developing the "ethical warrior program" for Marines, facing pushback that ethical training might make them "soft." His solution involved a visual exercise: showing a picture of a grizzly bear, then revealing a mother bear with cubs. The Marines' increased fear of the mother bear, due to her protective instinct, highlighted that protectors can be perceived as more formidable than mere killers. This led to the realization that being a protector, while requiring fierce tactical superiority, is a more sustainable and ethically sound identity.
Practical Steps for Everyday Protectors
For civilians without military or law enforcement backgrounds, Hoban suggested practical steps to embody the protector role:
- Recognize Innate Protector Instincts: Acknowledge that the desire to protect oneself and loved ones is fundamental. This inherent value system forms the basis of the protector identity.
- Activate the Protector Role: Engage in "protector things" through small, everyday actions. This includes helping others, practicing patience (e.g., letting a car merge), and taking the "high ground" in interactions. These actions, while initially challenging, lead to serenity and reduced stress.
- Cultivate Self-Confidence: Physical fitness and martial arts training are crucial for building self-confidence, which underpins the ability to act as a protector. This training should be viewed as a daily lifestyle, not just goal-oriented pursuits.
- Embrace a Lifestyle of Readiness: Similar to a musician practicing daily, a protector must consistently train and maintain their skills. This can involve small, integrated practices throughout the day, rather than dedicated, lengthy sessions.
Bridging the Civilian-Military Gap
Hoban addressed the perceived gap between military personnel and civilians. He suggested that the common phrase "Thank you for your service," while well-intentioned, can inadvertently create a wall by being too superficial. He advocated for genuine communication and understanding, emphasizing that military members are human beings with a strong protective instinct, similar to civilians protecting their families. He stressed that relative values (cultural, religious, or criminal) should never supersede the fundamental value of human life, a principle often understood intuitively by protectors.
Resolution Group International (RGI)
Resolution Group International (RGI) emerged from Hoban's work as a subject matter expert for the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program. Following 9/11, the FBI sought his expertise on cross-cultural conflict resolution for agents deploying overseas. This led to RGI's development of programs focused on community policing, de-escalation, and conflict resolution for law enforcement agencies.
RGI's work was instrumental in retraining the Camden, New Jersey police department, which had been disbanded due to corruption. Within three and a half years, Camden transformed from the most dangerous city per capita in America to a recipient of the "Gold Standard" award for law enforcement. RGI has also implemented similar cultural transitions in other departments, including Toms River, New Jersey, demonstrating the applicability of protector culture principles across diverse organizations.
RGI offers its expertise to any organization seeking to enhance its culture, including hospitals, corporations, and schools. Hoban emphasized that building a protector culture is an ongoing process, akin to "mowing the lawn," requiring consistent effort.
Individuals interested in RGI's work can visit their website at RGI.co.
From Bully Victim to Marine: The Predator Self-Concept
Jack Hoban recounts his early life experiences of being bullied, which led him to join the Marine Corps. He realized that his military training, while effective, fostered an 'enforcer' or 'killer' self-concept, making him angry and confrontational. A pivotal moment occurred when his mentor, Robert Humphrey, challenged this mindset and introduced the affirmation: 'Wherever I go, everyone's a little safer because I'm there. Anyone in need has a friend.' This led to an epiphany, shifting his self-concept from predator to protector.
- Jack Hoban was bullied as a child, motivating him to join the Marine Corps.
- His military training instilled an 'enforcer' or 'killer' self-concept, leading to anger and paranoia.
- Mentor Robert Humphrey introduced the concept of being a protector through the affirmation: 'Wherever I go, everyone's a little safer because I'm there. Anyone in need has a friend.'
- This affirmation triggered an epiphany, shifting Hoban's self-concept from predator to protector.
The Subtle Shift: From Protector Intent to Thug Mentality
The discussion highlights the common pitfall of individuals in martial arts, defensive tactics, or firearms training shifting from a protector intent to a 'thug' mentality. Hoban emphasizes the importance of articulating and clarifying the protector identity to prevent this subtle but powerful drift towards aggression. He explains that the intuitive drive to be 'better and more dangerous' than an adversary can lead to a negative, self-defeating path.
- Training in martial arts or defensive tactics can sometimes lead to a 'thug' mentality instead of a protector one.
- Articulating and clarifying the protector identity is crucial to avoid this negative shift.
- The intuitive desire to be more skilled than an opponent can lead to a negative personal trajectory.
- This subtle shift often goes unnoticed by individuals until it becomes a powerful, negative driver.
The Ethical Warrior: Protection vs. Aggression
Hoban addresses the challenge of training individuals, like Marines and police officers, to be ethical protectors when they face dangerous adversaries. He uses the analogy of a mother grizzly bear being more intimidating than a lone male bear to illustrate that a protector's fierce determination, driven by the need to protect, can be more formidable than pure aggression. This reframes the idea that ethical training makes one vulnerable, suggesting instead that it requires superior skill and dedication.
- A key challenge is training protectors to be ethical while facing unethical adversaries.
- The analogy of a mother grizzly bear illustrates that a protector's fierce intent can be more intimidating than aggression.
- Ethical training does not inherently make individuals vulnerable; it requires greater skill and dedication.
- The core oath is to protect and defend, not to kill.
- To remain a protector, one must train harder and be tactically superior to the enemy.
Cultivating the Protector Identity in Everyday Life
For civilians, Hoban suggests three steps to becoming better protectors: 1) Recognize that you are already a protector, as protecting loved ones is a fundamental human value. 2) Activate this identity through small, everyday actions like helping others or letting someone merge in traffic, which leads to serenity. 3) Build self-confidence through physical fitness and continuous training, such as martial arts, to embody the protector lifestyle.
- Everyone is inherently a protector, driven by the fundamental value of life.
- Activating the protector identity involves small, consistent actions and choosing the high ground.
- Practicing protector actions leads to inner peace and reduced stress.
- Self-confidence is built through physical fitness and continuous training (e.g., martial arts).
- The protector lifestyle involves daily practice, not just segmented training.
The Protector Lifestyle: Continuous Training and Presence
Hoban explains that training, whether physical or mental, should be a continuous lifestyle, not just goal-oriented. He likens it to a musician practicing daily. He also notes that embracing the protector mindset can paradoxically lead to fewer negative encounters. He shares an anecdote about de-escalating a tense subway situation through calm interaction, demonstrating that real martial arts can be about presence and de-escalation, not just fighting.
- Training should be a daily lifestyle, akin to a musician practicing.
- Embracing a protector mindset can reduce negative encounters.
- De-escalation and presence can be powerful tools, even without physical confrontation.
- Self-confidence from training allows for calm interaction in tense situations.
- The goal is not to fight, but to ensure safety and de-escalate.
Bridging the Gap: Understanding the Protector's Motivation
Hoban discusses the gap between military/veterans and civilians, suggesting that superficial phrases like 'Thank you for your service' can create distance. He advocates for genuine human connection, recognizing that protectors are fundamentally human beings with a strong protective instinct, similar to parents protecting children. He emphasizes that relative values (cultural, religious) should never supersede the fundamental value of life, a concept often misunderstood but crucial in understanding the motivations of those who serve.
- Superficial acknowledgments like 'Thank you for your service' can create a gap between civilians and veterans.
- Protectors are fundamentally human beings driven by a protective instinct.
- Relative values (cultural, religious) should never supersede the fundamental value of life.
- Understanding the protector's motivation requires recognizing their human drive to protect.
- Connecting on a human-to-human level is more effective than clichéd phrases.
Resolution Group International: Fostering a Protector Culture
Hoban describes Resolution Group International (RGI) as a group of friends who are protectors. RGI evolved from Hoban's role in developing the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program and training FBI agents in cross-cultural conflict resolution. RGI now focuses on training law enforcement, including the successful retraining of the Camden, NJ police force, transforming it from the most dangerous city to a 'Gold Standard' in community policing. They also work with other organizations to instill a protector culture.
- Resolution Group International (RGI) is a collective of protectors.
- RGI originated from Hoban's work with the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program and FBI training.
- RGI trains law enforcement in community policing, de-escalation, and conflict resolution.
- RGI played a key role in transforming Camden, NJ's police force into a 'Gold Standard' in community policing.
- The principles of a protector culture can be applied to various organizations, not just law enforcement or military.